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I've been dealing with my neighbors dog for some times since the beging of this year, fellow neighbors have asked what there going to do with there barking dog they told them they was going to get rid of it soon, but they still have it,  I did call the cops on them they told us they couldn't do anything. so we left it alone for a while, each night and day the dog would bark, finally last month i got sick of it and emailed my local animal control, I told them that there house was a mess and didn't know what the dog looked like, so i think they came out and looked at there dogs, yes dogs they have one inside a little one and one big one outside. or someone  walked over to thee house and asked them to do something with there dogs. well for two weeks there dog didn't bark until two nights ago, at first  I was going to email the animal control but though it was a passing thing, i was wrong! last night there dog started barking ago, theses people get home pretty late in the night, so last night I emailed the animal control in hopes they will take the dog away or talk to the owners.

UNBELIEVABLE

Animal control & law enforcement won't do anything. my neighbor has a pit-bull that barks a lot. not just that, but the dog is always trying to jump the wall. In Oct.2009, I contacted animal control & showed them of a video of the pit-bull trying to jump the wall & snapping at my dog. they said they would call me to let me know what they were going to do about it, but I heard nothing.
In Feb.2010 the pit-bull jumped halfway over the wall & almost bit my dog, so I contacted animal control again. they came out & looked at the wall & the dog. the officer saw that I had extended some of the wall, but can't afford to do the whole wall. I told the officer that the dog owner should do the rest since it is their dog that's causing the problem. the officer said that they can't force the offending dog's owner to do it, but will talk to them. the officer said they can't do anything unless the dog was in my yard. again nothing happened & the next day, I get a visit from animal control with a report of me beating & abusing my dog. Isn't that odd? we know who it was trying to get back at me.
now it's mid June 2010 & at 2:00 in the morning, I hear the pit-bull barking. I went to check it out thinking that the dog was barking at a rat. My dog was locked up in the house for the night & I shined the flashlight out the sliding door window. well, the neighbor's pit-bull was in my yard, but thankfully was confined in an enclosed space I had built just in case this might happen. as I went to get a closer look, the dog began to growl & bark even more. I yelled at the neighbors to get their dog, but they didn't wake up. I then called the police & they told me to call animal control. I called animal control & they told me that they would come out later that morning. the owners finally got their dog over the wall. An officer came out at 10:00 that morning to inspect the area, but said there was nothing they could do since the dog was no longer in my yard & went to talk to to dog owner about the dog & the wall. the man said he would put some bricks on the wall. when he did put up the bricks, he only put a couple & left a large area of the wall with nothing & said to his friend that it wasn't his problem, yet he put two rows of bricks on the wall of his backyard neighbor.
two days later, I'm across the street talking to a buddy when the dog owner see's me & walks over to tell me that if he see's me in the street, he's going to beat the hell out of me. I could smell the booze on his breath.
three days after that, the police come knocking on my door because two houses down, there was a break-in & since I had a security camera, wanted to know if I had video. sorry to say, I did not. The funny thing about the house that got robbed, they have two dogs that were barking when it happened because I heard them, but like everyone else, didn't pay attention to the dogs because they bark all the time.
to get back to the police, I asked them about the neighbor who threatened me & if necessary, what can I do to defend myself. the officer said that I can only use as much force as the person assaulting me. that's stupid, the guy's much bigger. The police officer was going to talk to the guy, but of course nothing again.
I walk my dog in the evenings almost everyday & I've carried a large knife with me for the past year because I've been attacked & bitten by a pit-bull while walking down the street & have been charged by a pit-bull a couple of times while walking my dog. The police have driven by me a few times when I was walking my dog with the knife they never stopped me. well, last night my neighbor with the problem dog, saw me as I left for the walk with the dog & he knows about the knife. five minutes after I get home, the police are knocking at my door. they had a report of someone walking a dog with a machete in their hand. The police said that I can only carry pepper spray & maybe a stick, not even a bat to protect myself. I found out later that the neighbor with the problem dog was talking to the police right after they left my house. I've never had a problem with anyone seeing me carry the knife because I'm not waving it around. it's in it's sheath, in the same hand as the dog leash. I'm guessing, the guy figures that he can't run up & beat me up as long as I have something to protect myself with & he's also trying to get me in trouble to retaliate because of his dog.
Now, isn't it funny how animal control & the police won't do anything about an aggressive dog or the owner, let alone a barking dog, yet the victim is treated as the problem, criminal or just ignored.
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I think we're going to sue our neighbors

I have gathered alot of evidence of my next door neighbor's incessantly barking dog.   I have taken alot of time out of my life trying to enforce them to take care of the situation and their dog.   I have ALOT of evidence.   So, now these neighbors still let their dog out to bark for over an hour in the middle of the night recently.  Although they improved taking care of the dog, they always go back to letting it back out again at times even though they know the dog will bark at anything and everything it sees or hears.  We are finally going to see a lawyer because it has cost us alot with what we have had to do.  We tried to do things ourselves to solve the problem and not "start a war" with these neighbors.  But anyone who allows their dog to bark incessantly day and night or at you may be a neighbor but they are not your friend.  So, we are not friends and never will be, so we are just finally going to sue them.  We have also been harassed in a variety of ways because we complained.  We should get no less than reimbursement for our expenses, but will probably get pain and suffering also.  I hope to get reimbursed for my time and trouble in having to enforce them to take care of their dog.  I have worked in law firms and have alot of knowledge so I think because of all of my evidence we should get a pretty good settlement.   I really hate having to do this, because we hate confrontation and have never sued before, and we try to live a peaceful existence.  Everyone has enough problems as it is.  These people are just the opposite however.  I will keep updating on this topic.


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A Letter to the Editor

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The FCC 31/3/10 page 6 states Chris Foley asked Queensland Parliament what would be done to help “well behaved” neighbours who suffered abuse from less well-behaved neighbours.  
 
I twice approached Mr. Foley several years ago about this problem, but he refused to raise it in Parliament.

The proposed Bill emanates from a survey (Sunday Mail 18/6/06) which revealed that one in five Queenslanders is forced to move house to escape rotten neighbours.
 
The  then Attorney General decided to look at Livability Courts such as operate in the U.S.A., (Charleston, South Carolina) which deal with neighbourhood disputes (Sunday Mail 25/6/06).
 
To date all that has been done is to ask the public for submissions re dividing fences.  The next subject will be trees.
 
The majority of neighbourhood “disputes” are about noise.  Over 50% of noise complaints are about barking dogs.
 
The administering authority for animal noise is Council; the Police deal with most other noise.   Councils blatantly refuse to do anything about barking dogs.  The Police don’t have to, so don’t.
 
The result is that sociopathic types knowingly and deliberately leave their dogs unattended in tiny back yards all day, every day, barking their heads off.  If you speak to the owners, they will run screaming to the Police who will be on your doorstep in a flash directing you not to ”harass” your poor neighbour.  
 
Such neighbours laugh behind their hands at the incredible power they have to torment you non-stop forever, without penalty, aided and abetted by the authorities.  They are treated like Royalty while their hapless victims are treated like dirt.+++

I spoke to Premier Anna Bligh and the Attorney General at the Community Cabinet Meeting at Hervey Bay in 2008, and was told barking dogs would not be addressed in this so-called Neighbourly Relations Bill.
 
This means that neighbourhood “disputes” will continue unabated.
 
Please note that being noise-abused is neither a “nuisance” nor a “dispute”; it is a major health hazard.  It is high time the Government addressed it promptly without further ado.

P.A. Robb, Naryborough

 
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+++ See Australian Press Council Adjudication #1230 in early 2004, which ruled against the Chronicle.  The reporter, Ernie Paussa, retired soon afterwards.
 
 
Read Terry Sweetman’s take on this matter hereunder:

 
EXTRACT FROM SUNDAY MAIL, BRISBANE, DATED JULY 7,  2006

 
SULNDAY EXTRA
 
By  Terry Sweetman           sweetwords@ozemail.com.au
 
 
Bullies who are beyond reason
 
I have never been forced to draw stumps and move house because of problems with neighbours.
 
However, some have made the decision to move a damned sight easier.
 
One poor soul was clearly nuts, the result of a tough time behind barbed wire during World War 11.
 
Another had a team of dogs that were pooches of perfection until she went to work.
 
Another just had more kids than were comfortable at our time of life.
 
Apart from the crazy lady, who was given to throwing rocks, hurling abuse and making insane accusations, most were reasonable people in other regards.
 
Some were marvels, people whose friendship we still treasure.  I’ve been lucky but I’ve had enough bad experiences to know there is no more helpless feeling than to be confronted on a daily basis by people who are immune to common sense and reasonable behaviour.
 
And, it is obvious from feedback from readers and from a recent Sunday Mail survey that neighbourliness is not a happy state of affairs for many people.
 
One in five said he or she had been run out of house and home by neighbours whose behaviour has ranged from the truly bizarre to the criminal.  Clearly, some of those who claim such martyrdom are as loopy as they come, unduly touchy, obsessive or even paranoid.
 
But, as they say, just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean somebody’s not out to get you.
 
So, what is it with some people that they just can’t live within the reasonable confines of a civilized community?  Why do some people just have to make life miserable for their neighbours?  Is it some kind of downward envy thing, or is it territorial roaring and fencepost piddling?
 
Apart from some poor, isolated, alienated stay-at-home nutters, drunks and crazies, I don’t think it has much to do with neighbours or neighbourhoods.
 
I think it is just a symptom of the same sort of social inadequacy that afflicts some people wherever they are.
 
The people who throw rocks on neighbouring roofs, heave dog turds into swimming pools, vandalise property and possessions, scream out insults and obscenities and terrorise women and children are the very same people who go ape in traffic, run amok in car parks, pick fights in hotels, belt their kids around and ears in supermarkets and have stand-up brawls with their spouses in public places.
 
They were standing behind the door when the reasonable genes were being handed out and they go through life in a mist of barely concealed envy, anger and grief.  If they’re not tormenting the people over the fence, they’ve out picking fights and belting people in parks.
 
At school, they were probably the kids who were banished to weed the garden during lessons, ruined other students’ efforts and were first out the school gate the day the day they turned 15.
 
In their youth, they were probably the ones who couldn’t go to the cricket without jumping the fence, couldn’t watch the State of Origin without ending up in the police cells and couldn’t even catch a train without subjecting everyone to obscenities and boorish behaviour.
 
Usually their oafishness ends in fears and tears.  Sometimes it ends in death or injury when an idiocy-fuelled punch goes wrong.
 
And these are the sort of people we expect to respond to mediation in neighbourhood disputes!  
 
Come off the grass.
 
Mediation presumes some kind of reasonableness and an ability to compromise, qualities sadly one-sided in most over-the-fence rows.
 
So no we might turn to neighbourhood courts.
 
Good luck, but for them to succeed we would have to get a lot more serious with neighbourhood bullying.
 
And that’s what it is.
 
Disputation suggests two sides to a problem, bullying is one-sided thuggery.
 
It is the standing over of someone smaller and weaker or (in a neighbourhood context) someone who is handicapped by good manners and regard for the law and the rules of civilized behaviour.
 
Neighbourhood bullies care nothing for the trappings of a civil society and are undaunted by authority, the law, good manners or public embarrassment.
 
They steal neighbours’ privacy, their contentment, their security, their happiness and futures as surely as muggers snatch wallets and mobile phones.
 
Their activities are not curbed by legal letters, stern lectures from cops, or mealy-mouthed cautions from councils.  They won’t be reined in by feel-good tribunals and bonding sessions.
 
The only things that will stop them are police surveillance, serious charges, and hefty penalties.
 
That sort of police work doesn’t come cheap and is about the last thing a duty sergeant needs on his roster, but it is that serious.
 
To my mind, a person who makes another’s home untenable, uninhabitable and possibly, unsellable, is no better than a bank robber with a mask and a gun.   
 
Let’s have neighbourhood courts, but give them real power to stand up for those who are helpless in the face of arrogant bullies who ruin their lives and steal their happiness.
 
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For years

For years I've been affected by at lease one neighbor with barking dogs.  My situation about six months ago was this: I had two dogs next to me that would bark in the day as well as from 11pm to 1am.  I also had dogs directly behind me that would bark ALL hours of the day, all the time.  And to fill in any spots in between, I have a neighbor adjacent to me who's beagle barks from 7am in the morning to about 6pm in the evening.  Recently my neighbors directly behind me moved, as well as the ones next to me.  So I've only had to content with daytime barking from the beagle (as horribly annoying as it is).  Before they did, though, I've complained to all of them which only yielded minor improvements.  The real problem-dogs behind me though did not improve at all since they were just going to move in a couple of weeks. 

Now, new neighbors have moved in directly behind me who own about three dogs who also bark.  Just last week two of their dogs were barking, non-stop, from 3am to 4am.  It was finals week for me so I was extremely upset.  And in usual fashion, the beagle would tag team me and start its barking at 7am.  Right now I'm going to complain for the second time to the beagle owner, and I already called the sheriff on the dogs behind me for their 3am barking.  If the beagle situation does not improve I will most likely call animal control on them.  I am also thinking about sending letters to my non-dog-owning neighbors (actually one of them owns a wonderful dog that rarely--if ever--barks) to encourage them to complain as well.  This has got to stop.  I feel like I'm held hostage in my own house and that my schedule is being determined by something as stupid as a barking dog.  My ears are sore from trying to use earplugs, and I'm just all-around stressed out.  It's ridiculous too when there are moments of peace and I am able to get a full night of sleep.  I feel so relieved for being able to do so, but when you think about it, shouldn't it be like that ANYWAYS??

The least we can do.

I am surrounded by neighbors that could care less if their dogs bark non-stop albeit 2 in the afternoon or 2 in the morning. What I hear more often than not when I complain is "you're the first to complain". It seems that when few complain that dog owners (of which I am a proud owner of 2 myself) conveniently assume that their neighbors are OK being awakened at 2AM. I think few people complain because they're smarter than I am and know what to expect in advance so why bother. The dog's owner can hear the dog just as well as I can and he/she must know that it has the potential to bother the neighbors but by not doing anything about it they send a clear message that they could care less and so why talk to them about it? Here's the thing - I thought that the bare minimum standard in being a good neighbor is to ask ourselves before undertaking any activity "is what I am about to do going to bother my neighbor?". It doesn't mean that we can't do what we want it just means we have to modify it a tad. I can still suntan on my deck while listening to my music - but if I turn it down low none of my neighbors should know that I am doing it. It's perfectly OK to mow my lawn but maybe Saturday morning at 6AM isn't the best time. It's OK to own dogs but no one should know you do unless they are trespassing on your property or during the times you're outside playing catch. 

You have the right to have guard dogs and if the only time they bark is when there is a real rather than a perceived threat - that would be great. However, if they are barking at the guy across the street walking his dog - that's not being a guard dog, that's being a nuisance. If the dog is barking at cars going by - that is not being a guard dog but a nuisance. If the dog is barking in response to another dog barking - that's not a guard dog but a nuisance. If the dog is barking at the neighbor quietly going about their business doing yard work - that is not a guard dog but a nuisance. If the dog is barking at the kids across the street playing hopscotch that is not a guard dog but a nuisance. Besides unless your dog is a free roaming dog - he/she is not going to thwart a burglary if they are tied to a fixed location on your property. If they are in the back that still leaves the front accessible. Or if they are tied in the front that leaves the back accessible. I speak from experience on this one because 20 years ago I was a crook and encountered many dogs - didn't stop me once - even when they were free roaming. And if the neighbors are used to the dog barking when the wind blows - they no longer look outside to see what the problem might be. Be a decent neighbor and a better friend to your dog - get an electric security system that makes all kinds of noise if there's an attempted break-in and keep your dog inside. It's better for the dog, it's better for the neighbors and it'll even be better for you - win win!  

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The "Stars" of Lake Tahoe

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I live at Lake Tahoe, I have been here for many years. (40) California then Nevada side. Nice area of the lake actually. Marla Bay, Nv. You have no idea how many dog owners that come up to their inherited homes for the summer. These are snooty 60-somethings mainly. I live here year round through snow storms, horrible driving conditions, power outages etc. and live for the couple of months outdoors in summer.

So here they come. Drag their barking dogs up here to sit outside all day while they are gone for hours on a boat or on the beach (away from their homes where the barking dogs are barking for 5-10-12 hours.)

My thoughts are that... these owners are the same Americans that are loud and obnoxious travelers the world deplores. And are growing in numbers. They are think they are all important... "stars".

No common decency!

And...If they have a few dollars? They think everyone will just have to put up with their horrible dogs behavior. Too bad for them!

There are only about three blocks to this neighborhood, and I would guess there are dogs in 95% of the summer homes and about 50% in year round residences.

I just came back from two months in Europe and stayed in residential homes with friends. Mostly England (and lots of dogs there) And not once, did I ever hear dogs barking! Never. And I walked everywhere. Hmmmm.

We are hyper, and very selfish Americans.

End of story.

Jane in Lake Tahoe

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